Comments on: Google – Proprietary inclination https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/ To entertain as well as inform Fri, 18 Apr 2025 06:25:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.26 By: windsorr https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1142 Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:05:21 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1142 Check Android.developer.com. It is using the Java standard libraries which means Google no longer controls the APIs. This means any change has to be implimented by Sun. this is not a viable position from Google’s perspective.

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By: windsorr https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1141 Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:04:23 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1141 Google is unable to distribute its software updates which is like making a great product and then not being able to get it to leave the factory. Also the endemic fragmentation hampers the user expereince.. both are fixed by Google taking control of Android,

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By: Jones Day https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1140 Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:38:10 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1140 “The problems with the Google ecosystem based on Android are that the user experience is hobbled due to the endemic fragmentation of Android about which Google has been able to do very little.”

Google answer to this is Google Mobile Services, it is proprietary so Google can and does update it, currently about every 6 weeks. Yes not everything is part of this package but with every platform release more functionality is moved into it. GMS runs across every android device after 4.0 (97% of devices).

“In Marshmallow, Google has been forced to use Oracle standard libraries for the Android Run Time meaning that Google has effectively lost control of the software roadmap for the runtime.”

Do you have a source for this? My understanding of the case was that it was about the copyright of the semantics and structure of the Java api. This has nothing to do with ART. ART’S input is bytecode and its output is machine code.

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By: Richard https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1139 Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:59:27 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1139 So you are saying that ART, the solution Google created to ditch Delvik and offers source on Git is controlled by Oracle? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+refs

What’s the basis of your bullshit?

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By: windsorr https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1138 Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:06:48 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1138 Yes.
The development of the ART is now be controlled by Oracle. Google can not permit this and the solution here is to rewrite the ART and the libraries. Fro there its a simple step to put in GMS and blame Oracle.. That will effectively make GMS a propprietray version of Android,

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By: heron https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1137 Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:05:20 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1137 Hi,

Thanks for your interesting article.
About this bulleted list “A proprietary version of Android will allow Google […] to take back control of software updates”
and thise one “RFM estimates that it takes around 4 years for a new version of Android to fully penetrate Google’s ecosystem compared to a matter of months for iOS.” I have one question I often ask myself : What’s the point ?

What is the point for a product releaser (of smartphone, OS, GPS, software) to have ALL his product under the same soft version ? Why is this so important ?
About myself, on my smartphone I can’t install any update (my smartphone is too old) but I keep using it and I’ll do until it’s completely unusable or broken. So I have an outdated product but I can still use it.

So I wonder why is this soooo important for the releasers (Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc) to ask us to have the lastest version of their software on our product. In other world, why a fragmented market about version of the same product is so much a nightmare for these companies ? I can’t graps it (else it is for dark purposes as tracking, eavesdropping, …)

If anyone has a clue about that, I should be grateful to understand this mystery ^^

thanks

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By: TLians.com https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1124 Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:12:34 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1124 […] proprietary version of the mobile operating system.According to the claims of a technology analyst Richard Windsor, Google is working on a highly confidential internal project to rewrite the ART runtime to scrape […]

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By: Google Is Working On A Closed Source Version Of Android OS — Analyst https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1123 Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:03:50 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1123 […] to the claims of a technology analyst Richard Windsor, Google is working on a highly confidential internal project to rewrite the ART runtime to scrape […]

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By: Analyst: Google plans to take Android proprietary | Leave Google Behind https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1122 Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:30:17 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1122 […] This is a long-standing theme for Windsor, who most recently raised it here. […]

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By: Randy Lea https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-proprietary-inclination/#comment-1121 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 15:19:29 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=3354#comment-1121 I do not understand your point. Are you claiming they are moving away from Java? How does ending the AOSP force updates through the system?

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