Comments on: Google vs. Microsoft – No free lunch https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-vs-microsoft-no-free-lunch/ To entertain as well as inform Fri, 18 Apr 2025 06:25:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.26 By: Juha-Pekka Sipponen https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-vs-microsoft-no-free-lunch/#comment-252 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:14:41 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=504#comment-252 Indeed so. Especially because an endless list of configuration options is not really a solution, but would just make things worse. Like you say, headache and hell ahead. But also big rewards for those who find a way

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By: windsorr https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-vs-microsoft-no-free-lunch/#comment-251 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:57:12 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=504#comment-251 Quite possibly….that is going to be a headache to manage….maybe even more than when one kept in contact with telephones and snail mail….Its going to be hell to get this one right!!!

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By: Juha-Pekka Sipponen https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-vs-microsoft-no-free-lunch/#comment-250 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:32:17 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=504#comment-250 True. The interesting thing just is that very few people are total extremes i.e. total open books or totally private. Most people are in the middle, having slightly different identities across different social circles, resulting in certain things they want to keep private and separate from others. And the more media savvy people become, the more they realize that keeping surprisingly small part of information closed is enough for obfuscation.

So, for clarification, I don’t think it’s either-or, it’s both and that’s where many user interface paradigms have room for improvement, being “too binary” i.e. are easy to use only if either everything integrates or everything is sandboxed.

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By: windsorr https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-vs-microsoft-no-free-lunch/#comment-249 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:34:17 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=504#comment-249 They could but everyone presented with a simple choice to opt out would probably do so. The rates wont go down to zero but the available dollars to support these services would take a massive hit. Gieven that these companies are all isted now, they would have to do something radical to portect the margins that the investors have become accustomed to.

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By: windsorr https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-vs-microsoft-no-free-lunch/#comment-248 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:25:12 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=504#comment-248 Thats a very interesting point,,,the only problem is that keeping everything in sandboxes gets super confusing…even for the tech savvy….hence maybe those that really really care about privacy go for those ecosystems which you pay for the service rather than have your data banks pillaged.

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By: tatilsever https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-vs-microsoft-no-free-lunch/#comment-247 Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:32:44 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=504#comment-247 Can’t they fulfill their obligations by once presenting a simple tracking authorization request to a user from an EU IP address before he can get any service from their websites?

Even if all of the customers opt-out of tracking, I don’t think ad rates would go down to zero. Google and Facebook should still stay profitable enough to provide these services. Besides, they can always restrict some features to customers who agree to tracking, as an inducement. (For example, I believe Google Maps app on iPhone asks for an opt-in so that you can use the addresses you’ve saved in your Gmail address book and it refuses to use the address book that exists on the phone, forcing the users to pick between opt-in and copy/paste addresses from Contacts app.) If they can come up with an even superficial technical reason why the features would require them to do some tracking, they can avoid customer backlash, too.

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By: Juha-Pekka Sipponen https://www.radiofreemobile.com/google-vs-microsoft-no-free-lunch/#comment-246 Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:02:08 +0000 http://www.radiofreemobile.com/?p=504#comment-246 A nice post. I tend to agree that, generally speaking, “pay with personal data” will prevail over “pay cash”. It is not as risky as privacy advocates claim because people learn to compartmentalize their digital lives, excluding certain data from certain “channels”.

That, in turn, has interesting consequences to user interface logic evolution. Hence, somewhat counter-intuitively, people might not always want “unified everything” but actually to keep many things in their own sandboxes.

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